99, extracting value

[notcalebsheridan]

BB ($44.65)
UTG ($94.55)
Hero ($82.40)
SB ($52.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9d, 9h.
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($14.75) 9c, Ah, 5c (2 players)
UTG bets $4.5, Hero raises to $17, UTG calls $12.50.

Turn: ($48.75) Th (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $40, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $88.75


same villain as: http://blacksburgpoker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21

Is this an ok line? Should i have bet less on turn?

There are lots of cards I don't want to see. I'm thinking this villain is starting to tilt. I'm abusing my position and i think that he would definetly call with an A and maybe tilt-call with a draw. Is this bet too much considering that? His stack on the turn was about $70, mine about $60

[Nima]

I think you over bet that. He probably wasnt on the flush neither the backdoor straight. I doubt he had 2-3 or 3-4 either.

I would put him on a weak Ace.

You bet the pot size on the turn which you dont need to. Even if he was on some sort of draw you had him crushed. You want him to make a bad call.

Cheers,
Nima

[Matt]

I agree with Nima on this one. Since the villian is passive and easy to read, he most likely has a weak ace. I don't know his betting habits. He may be massaging the pot or semi-bluffing, but $4.50 seems more like a probing bet. I think it would be safe to slow-play this hand. He could easily make a second-best hand on the turn by pairing his ace or his kicker, although this does set up a possible redraw. Against an aggressive player, you might call on the flop and raise on the turn. Against a passive player, I would either call or raise the flop and make a smaller bet when and if he checks on fourth street.

In many ways this hand is similar to the tournament hand I posted in another thread: http://blacksburgpoker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14. We're both trying to protect our sets from a flush draw, but there are some differences that might affect your play: You have position on your opponent; a bet from a predictable player suggests a weak made hand rather than a semi-bluff; he could easily make a second best hand on the turn (e.g., three aces against your full house); if he is on a draw, two of his flush cards are dead outs (the ace and ten of clubs); finally, you're not as worried about taking a hit to your stack in a cash game (assuming you can rebuy). I would bet about half the pot and see what happens.

-Matt

[Nima]

Exactly what Matt said. Bet half of the pot or a little more on the turn and hope to get called.

He has no outs (if he has an Ace). If he doesnt have an ace but he is on the backdoor flush or backdoor straight he has 4 outs with one card comming.

That is 4 out 46 which is roughly 8%. If he calls a half of the pot bet he is calling $40 to win $120 which is clearly the odds are not in his favor.

I'm assuming if he gets the flush or straight and re-raises you, you would be able to fold you set. If not he is getting odds of calling $40 to win $140 (you only had $60 left on the turn). Even in this situation he is not getting the odds.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Nima

[MaZiYi]

I was going to reply to this but as I kept scrolling down they answered everything... :roll:

Also you can try to check the turn to like like reraised to buy a free card because you are on the flush draw giving him a chance to bluff you on the river. But you might have to make a tough call if a scare card comes.